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BWF just announced that they will be testing a new 3 x 15 scoring system.

Summary of the new scoring:-
- 15 points per game, best of 3
- deuce at 14-all, with 2 point gap to win
- Maximum point is 21
- Game interval at point 8

So, what do you guys think? I may tried it out :)
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CZ8BsdiDa/

Added a poll. There’s

There is an argument for having 5 games 11points to minimise the advantage or disadvantage of change of ends when there is significant wind affecting the shuttle. Any opinions on that as well?

Last edited: Feb 6, 2025

that is the most boring and uninspired solution ever. It results in only one thing: Shorter matches. It adds nothing new to the game. This will be the classic foul compromise that all sides sides will not be really happy about.

I've always been in favour of the 5 x 11 system since it adds more dynamic and tactical options. Tight matches are almost the same length as today whilst one-sided ones will be shortened signifcantly. And isn't that what we all want?

Last edited: Feb 6, 2025

Yeah completely agree, only thing this changes is making the matches shorter and who asked for that? 5x11 I too think could be an improvement and what I thought was the proposed change. Who came up with this?

My group has been doing games to 11 every now and then. Never have I ever thought about doing 15 points. While I don't quite like 11x5 compared to 21x3 as I typically play a catch up style against equally strong opponents, it is definitely more preferable to 15x3 which just shortens the match. At least in 11x5, a 2 down comeback would bring much more excitement than a 1 down comeback to 15 points.

At least in 11x5, a 2 down comeback would bring much more excitement than a 1 down comeback to 15 points.

Completely agree. Comebacks seems to have been completely overlooked by the BWF document.

In favour of either of the lower score options.
Don't mind watching a good close match.
But if my favorite is far behind in game 1, I hate to seem him/her waste energy finishing it out all the way to 21.

Also in favour of fewer and shorter interruptions in the game.
For example, if floor needs mopping, players stay on court unless given permission. If going to towel down or change racket, no three drinks and a bite to eat - save that for coaching breaks, only. Give yellow cards early in match for delaying tactics, so threat of red is there sooner.

How about this?

all matches are time-based, like 60 minutes only.

Change ends every 30 minutes.

Same for MS, WS, MD, WD and XD.

The clock should pause during challenges and mop up

Last edited: Feb 8, 2025

How about this?

all matches are time-based, like 60 minutes only.

Change ends every 30 minutes.

Same for MS, WS, MD, WD and XD.

The clock should pause during challenges and mop up

Bad things will happen when one is leading. He will walk around the court and do all possible delays before serving. Same time his opponent is nervously trying to go on serving as soon as possible

Personally, shorter games will ruin badminton for me. Shorter games is the reason I gave up on table tennis completely.

When the games are shorter, each point is more important. Sounds good in theory. But it makes the game less fun. Risks are no longer worth taking. Players avoid spectacular 40-50% shots and just play a simpler safer top spin loop. It's like if tennis decides to eliminate double faulting on service; if you make a service error, you lose the point. There'd be no more Andy Roddick-style 220+km/h aces.

Curious why they want to introduce a new scoring system just to have shorter games? 11 x 5 points has been around for some time now & used in most club level league matches this scoring system also resulted in shorter match. Why waste all the R&D just to intro a so called new scoring system when BWF can look at other areas that in need of improvements.

I'd like to see boxing style scoring. There will be 12 rallies in a match. 1 point for ending the rally. If you manage to make your opponent fall down as you end the rally, it counts as KO and you'll be awarded 2 points. 3 KOs and you automatically get a TKO win. After 12 rallies the points are tallied and the winner get their hands raised by the umpire.

The 11x5 scoring system was trialed back in smaller tournaments as far as 2014 and my training group usually play 7 or 11 point games for sparring. Most of the players and spectators expressed dissatisfaction with how easy it is for the match to get out of control due to mistakes, bad calls or lucky/risky plays. I'm not confident in changing to 15x3 either, some of the best matches I've watched are ones that go beyond 21 points in at least one game.

The 11x5 scoring system was trialed back in smaller tournaments as far as 2014 and my training group usually play 7 or 11 point games for sparring. Most of the players and spectators expressed dissatisfaction with how easy it is for the match to get out of control due to mistakes, bad calls or lucky/risky plays. I'm not confident in changing to 15x3 either, some of the best matches I've watched are ones that go beyond 21 points in at least one game.

oh Yes, totally agreed.

XXF vs ZN 2006 Japan Open 11–21, 21–16, 29–30
LYD/JJS vs FHF/CY 2009 BWF World Championships 18-21, 21-16, 26-28
Zhang N. / Zhao YL. vs J.Fischer Nielsen / C.Pedersen, can't remember the match
PVS vs NO, can't remember the match

there are many others, which I don't remember them all 😅

Women's Doubles need to change - they are taking too long, comparing to other disciplines.

Womne's Singles need to change too - there are too many injuries overall and especially at the Olympics.

Last edited: Feb 21, 2025

Doesn't seem to change anything, but if i could change, prolly gonna change 21 points for 1st and 2nd round, then 15 points for 3rd round.
But, 11 points x 5 rounds system sounds interesting for me, kinda exciting if i would say

The shuttlecocks are the problem, not the scoring system.
The shuttles being used in tournaments are getting slower and slower, because the BWF wanted more long rallies, which are supposedly more entertaining for spectators, and the perfect length for sharing on social media (YouTube Shorts, etc).
The inevitable outcome is that as the rallies get longer, so too do the overall matches, and now the BWF have decided they need to try and find a way to shorten them again.

In the case of womens doubles, it's reached a ridiculous point, where the players simply don't have the strength to hit winners any more - or at least, the probability of hitting a winning smash (or even a constructive shot that can't simply be lifted back to the baseline) is so low that it's not worth the energy expenditure - so rallies can go on almost indefinitely.
For example, a direct quote from the commentator on a match today: "Well, it's like nobody wants to take the attack on; everybody wants to counter attack, but if noone's willing to attack in the first place..."

Last edited: Mar 8, 2025

Hong Kong Annual Championships entry form is just out. They have said it will use 3x15 scoring system. Previously, the early rounds were one game to 31 points - quarterfinal onwards were 3x21. Compared to a match of 1x31, 3x15 is definitely better.

BWF announced the 10 Grade 3 tournaments that will be using the 3x15 scoring system to test. Here are the list:-

1. V Mexican International Challenge 2025 7-11 May 2025
2. Venezuela Future Series 2025 10-14 June 2025
3. Czech International Future Series 2025 19-22 June 2025
4. DOVE Saipan International 2025 12-16 August 2025
5. PETRONAS Malaysia International Challenge 2025 12-17 August 2025
6. Peru International Series 2025 17-21 September 2025
7. Kampala International 2025 25-28 September 2025
8. ROKETTO Sydney International 2025 8-12 October 2025
9. LI-NING Vietnam International Series 2025 21-26 October 2025
10. China International Challenge 2025 28 October – 2 November 2025

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